It was bothering me that I like to see the Xmas lights and things, since I don't believe in the religion, or any for that matter, then it dawned on me that what I like are actually pagan, celebrating the winter solstice, and Christs Supposed B-day is said to have been moved from sometime in the summer to Dec 25 to give the christians something to celebrate and not go to the pagan ones, which Really is funny if it is true, and I tend to believe it, since all the Christ, god stuff I think is Man Made, and every revelation just makes it seem dumber, that people fall for it, but That's people. My sister got a new manger scene for her front lawn. Her and BIL buy into it, but Xmas day, they are like mortal enemies, and sound like they want to kill each other, that is part of why I stopped going, but it has always been a menagerie, and all highly educated, believing people, that sound like trailer trash, and they are sober. Maybe if they Did drink, they would sound and act refined.))